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« on: December 14, 2008, 01:01:06 PM »

 from what i read ,it apprears some racers have gotten quite a bit faster & kinda fallen out of their class,& some how can't fit into another!!   last year i believe, RICH was kind enough to add a 9.50 class to AMI, are there cars out there that are TOO fast for A/AMI ?  some people who run OPEN COMP in NMRA are trying to establish a NEW PRO COMP class for cars 9.99 & faster.  RICH, don't get the hactchet out, just asking if a PRO AMI class would work ?   cars that run 9.99 & faster ?     just asking,     SHADOW  Huh? Huh? Huh?
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2008, 01:13:10 PM »

Pro AMI?   No way!

Next step is Drag Radial or 10.5
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2008, 02:59:11 PM »

What Redgar said.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2008, 03:55:20 PM »

if their was enough cars, it might be something to look at. just remember drag radial has tight engine building guidlines and would be willing to bet a lot of AMI cars aren't drag radial legal and already aren't as fast. and to be competitive in 10.5, they'd have to drop close to a second of ET. the next step up is a lot bigger than it seems i would think. nothing wrong with keeping a 9.50 index either.
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2008, 07:53:02 PM »

If one was to build an AMI car to go that fast, wouldn't they instead shoot for a heads up class?
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2008, 08:28:29 PM »

this race series is hard enough to run as it is, and you want to make it more difficult.
maybe you should ask Rich for one of the jobs to help run the series.
i would say you are definitly out on a limb.  i think that there are only 4 to 6 cars that run the
9.50 index as it is.
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2008, 09:55:34 PM »

 i myself didn't think there were cars TOO fast in AMI , but reading the posts there seems to be a couple, thats why i asked who else has a car that runs AMI & runs way too fast for A/AMI.  WE [BGD racing] have no plans of switching out of B/AMI  so i'm not looking to create a NEW class, see you guys at the opener !!!!    SHADOW   Wink Wink Wink
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2008, 10:23:03 PM »

Add as many classes as we have sponsors for? 
So if you want to sponsor a class give up all the purse money for the whole season by Mar. 1 and Rich will make it happen!
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2008, 08:13:17 AM »

 you mean like a trucks ONLY class ?   Grin Grin Grin  SHADOW
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2008, 12:30:07 PM »

BRIAN, to answer your question as best i can, sometimes cars are PURPOSE built to run in a certain class, especially back in the day, & now too !! in the NMRA OPEN COMP class , quite a few of the top players have cars that run LOW 9's, and the class is not HEADS UP !!  it is also the LARGEST class in their series. so apparently people will build cars & don't care about running HEADS UP, also some racers run more than one series, & try to fit into a class that is as similar as possible.  BILLS' car for example fit best into the OPEN COMP class, both in NMRA & FFW . but then he found RAM AMI  that was the BEST fit of ALL .  so why do people choose one class over another, its whats fits BEST, or what they happen to like , or can afford  & the i have to be the fastest thing !!!  SHADOW   Wink Wink Wink
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2008, 03:36:42 PM »

being the stat guy I am I can tell you 9.50 i snot he biggest index we have.

George, now that FFW is Battle of the Brands, I going to try to get to one of their races in Street Bandit
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2008, 08:20:49 PM »

George, I see your point. It's nice to be able to easily switch between classes/series. Also, it's probably much easier to build and maintain a nine or eight second car for index racing than build, maintain, constantly upgrade and find more ponies each year on a heads up car.
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2008, 09:30:23 PM »

Being one of the cars capable of running well under the 9.50 index last year, I can't see dropping it any lower without either. A, lowering the top index as well, or B, breaking the class in half. I can't see where either would be a good thing for the class. MG saw an awesome turnout for 9.50. I was one of the big pushers for 9.50. Not so much for car count, but for a place to race while you go through all expenses from 10.00 to 9.99. Also gives you experience with the little things most don't think about, like driving with a window net right on you or gloves and a neck brace. Just food for thought. I think its perfect right now the way its set up. You can start out with only a helmet and work your way down through all the safety stuff without having to leave the class. Rules are wide open. What more could ya ask for?
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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2008, 10:03:51 PM »

very nicely said  Mark    Cheesy

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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2008, 10:07:38 PM »

Stop killing him over that one race he might get even one day
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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2008, 07:51:58 AM »

 REDGAR, the refference to the largest field was for NMRA OC , not RAM, although RAMS AMI is the largest in the RAM series, being a fellow stats guy, when i was piting with my old boss, we had stats on everyone in his class, everything i could find !!!  btw, his class MM is similar to AMI except for the N/A part, the person who won the class 3 yrs in a row, won $ 10, 000 @ a few events each year, plus a new car also, & he was in the MIDDLE of the pack.  ROBERT HINDMAN .    he knew the class well, was extremely consistant, was able to run every event & get all the points he possibly could, proving you don't have to have the fastest car in the class, to come out on top !!!!!  GOOD LUCK in 2009 !!!   SHADOW  Wink Wink Wink
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