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Richard Maitre
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« on: June 16, 2006, 08:14:00 AM » |
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I would like to hear any ideas on how to make the PRO N/A class more inviting to racers. I was thinking about openeing the rules some but not sure. If I allowed a weight break for conventional heads and or weight break for single carb, what about a weight break for W tires? Do you think that would be something that may help or am I opening a door there to something detrimental to the class? I like the rules for the class and want to stand strong on them except we are slow bringing new racers onboard, let me know your ideas.
Rich
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Jimmy Biggs
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2006, 04:48:59 PM » |
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$50k Winner $25k Runner up :roll: Don't shoot the messenger.......just tryin to help 
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LarrySantucci
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2006, 10:15:23 PM » |
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:shock: THANKS YourWay Network for stepping up BIG TIME with the payout. Look for 30-40 cars for the next event!
Seriously though, some good ideas Rich. It would be nice to see more cars showing up. A weight braeak for the single carb would be good and maybee conventional heads. I like the any size tire that you allow. Just my 2 cents. What does everyone think?
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Maximum Race Engines
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2006, 01:05:49 AM » |
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Rich- I don't know how you can make the class more "enticing"..The rules seem to be pretty easy going as it is. If anything, I can see weight breaks for :10.5 tires and smaller -50lbs :No wheelie bars -50lbs :Conventional heads -100lbs
A single four barrel combination can still make real good power, so that is questionable. A conventional type head could use a weight break as power will be down considerably. No wheelie bars helps, due to the fact that these cars do make alot of power and are more prone to reaching for the sky. Those that take the weight break not using wheelie bars run that risk if they want to be lighter. Same thing with the smaller tire. They run a risk of not hooking to weigh in a bit less. Kind of a risk yet a reward at the same time if you can make it work. I wouldn't go too much on the weight, just make it enough to be effective if they can make it work with these 3 issues. The tires and wheelie bars, you really need to be on your game with the suspension, and the break for conventional heads will help them keep up with the guys with non conventional heads. It just may be enough to get more guys to come in if they see they can weigh in even less, if they can get down that way. I don't see you really giving breaks for anything else, most cars will be either backhalved or tube cars, so the suspension that is being run is a given. And, the weights you have set are pretty fair for cubic inch, so they can adjust that issue with their choice of engine combinations. These 3 items can either hurt or help. Its their choice. Some guys are not willing to completely redo their car to cut weight a whole lot so most will just build bigger inches and power for the existing weight of the car. But, seeing they can remove 50-200lbs may be easier and can be a possible advantage...Just a thought..Or you can leave it as it is, don't give any breaks, and have a class that is somewhat even as far as power to weight. They want to win, they just have to make more power. Otherwise you are going to get guys looking for weight breaks for haveing a backhalved car from the tube chassis cars as they are not as effective as a tube car. Most backhalved cars are also trying to remove weight to make the class, yet the tube cars are usually already real light and just have to add balast, which is just an advantage to them. You can really nit pick alot of stuff, or you can keep it simple. Run what ya brung and have fun. I like the fact that you have so many cars in each class that are all over the spectrum. That just shows that every guy likes to come and have fun and run without haveing to always win. Thats why the points deal works, even though its heads up. If you start changeing rules around just to get more cars in that class, more guys are going to want you to revise even more so they can come in. As it is now, there really isnt any major rules that are not aloud. Power to weight is it.
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bob royer
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2006, 08:10:22 PM » |
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rich maybe post the class on some comp web sites.insidecompracing.com or competition eliminator forum.these cars should fit right into the class.
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John Langer
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2006, 06:30:27 AM » |
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You dont want the comp guys coming over to test. An NHRA B/AA car with a 500 cid motor has to weigh 2450, which is the same as in the pro N/A class. The class record is I believe 7.18. Anyone can purchase an old DRCE 2 motor complete from carbs to pan for under $20k. Those motors make in excess of 1250hp. Can you say class killer? I was sitting with a bunch of Top Sportsman racers this past weekend at the nationals at Englishtown. A bunch of those guys would like to run in this class but have to weigh way too much. Yeah, you can make pretty good power with 1 carb, but you can make a hell of alot more with 2. 
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Scott Ercole
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2006, 11:03:20 AM » |
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I definately agree with Bob. The class needs to have cars in the lanes to be around next year and a four car showing is not going to cut it. The comp guys do fit the rules and would help with the car count. Remember, comp cars do have cylinder head restrictions! If anyone can go out and buy an old DRCE 2 motor complete for under 20K they shouldn't be penalized for it. Don't hate!!!! Once there is more of a car count, rules can be adjusted for parity. Just my humble opinion.
Scott Ercole
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LarrySantucci
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2006, 02:49:10 PM » |
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So far it's been Chevy vs. Pontiac, Camaro vs. Firebird. Is that a good rivialry? Maybee the anouncer can play that up.
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Richard Maitre
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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2006, 03:09:43 PM » |
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Ya know I would like to see GM, Ford and Mopar all fighting for ranks in each class, now that would be cool to go back to those days.
Rich
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