sorry to hear the bad news

[badbird68]

sorry to hear the bad news but hopefully we can continue at MIR..

[Sodano]

Hang in there guys, sometimes in business its one step back to go two steps forward, I admire your honesty Rich.... just keep pluggin away we will be ok.......................

[outlaw69chevelle]

What bad news?

[Ron Rhodes]

What bad news?

Go to front page.

[HOOKEDUP]

Sorry to hear that about any event, hope we can draw a better turnout at the following race. Any rule changes pending that would tempt newbies?

Dave

[10secondranchero]

Sorry to hear that also, I've been trying to get my car back together but it's been one thing after another.  Hang in there Rich!! Dave Outten, just put mufflers on the thing already he's never going to change that rule!! LOL

[Ron Rhodes]

Rich, we know how difficult this decision was for you. As business owners
we certainly understand these tough times and the sacrifices that must be
made.
We have nothing but praise and respect for your difficult decision.

Larry and Ron Rhodes

[hardheaded]

Rich, I am very sorry you and your family. My son and I have only raced the year with you, but have followed your series for several years. Based on the conversations I have had with other folks and the post here on in your forums, you do this out of the love of the sport, not for the profits of a "Big Time Promoter". Yes, we are disappointed that you canceled next Sunday's event, but we fully understand the position that you are in. As a business man, the times that we are all living in keep getting worse as the months go by. Even our ability, as simple as it may be, to keep racing is becoming more difficut. My son has a good job with the goverment, but my position at an iron works business is tenuous at best. MIR was easy for us living on six miles from the track. We are commited to race and finish our season in RAM, whatever and however that may be. If there is anything that we can do to help you and RAN, we are more willing to help you. Thank-you for you efforts, investment and dedication to us, the racers.   

Tom Brown Sr.

[HOOKEDUP]

Hey Mikey, miss seeing you out there, be done with the car anytime soon? BTW, I had mufflers on this time but no brake pedal!!!

I was wondering about rule changes to cylinder heads more than mufflers. Some potential racers have cars with "out of the box" CNC'd heads that aren't on the accepted list, therefore they can't race. If flow numbers are the issue they might not flow what the heads on the list do with lots of porting.

The original concept for the class to limit heads and keep out the mega bucks 12 degree SBC, Big Dukes, ....etc. has merit but now we have no car count in certain classes. If we allow more heads on the list and attract more cars with no wt. penalty if one combo becomes dominant then add the weight.

Just a thought which might increase car count,
Dave

[Richard Maitre]

Dave....What are you talking about? There are no head rules for AMI, actually there are almost no rules for AMI except you do need mufflers Dave, lol. The head rule is for Drag Radial, and any changes in the head rules would allow a couple of others to race, and may allow others to go faster easier once they get the new heads worked. So before anything is done, a careful consideration to the weight adder would have to be figured. I think the best example is the sbf tfs high port, if that head is allowed there should be alot of racers ready, but would "PROBABLY" come in witha 150lb adder. But I am going to open AMI up to alcohol for the rest of the season and see how things go.

Rich

[pokadot1]

Dave....What are you talking about? There are no head rules for AMI, actually there are almost no rules for AMI except you do need mufflers Dave, lol. The head rule is for Drag Radial, and any changes in the head rules would allow a couple of others to race, and may allow others to go faster easier once they get the new heads worked. So before anything is done, a careful consideration to the weight adder would have to be figured. I think the best example is the sbf tfs high port, if that head is allowed there should be alot of racers ready, but would "PROBABLY" come in witha 150lb adder.


 But I am going to open AMI up to alcohol for the rest of the season and see how things go.

Rich

Beer or Hard stuff??
for you or us?

Cliffy

[Richard Maitre]

Maybe a little bit of both Cliffy

Rich

[PRO73CAMARO]

Maybe you can cut down the purse do to the car count. I just would like to go racing next weekend with RAM.I just need to keep my mojo going.

[Richard Maitre]

Sorry guys a decision needed to be made....Charlie Cathel has already been notified that we wont be attending.


Rich

[lx_2nv]

Man that sucks Rich! I completely understand and sypathize for your tough decision.  It will actually give me more time ot fix my car!  I hope for a really great showing at MIR.  There is more spectator potential there for that event and may give RAM a little time in the spotlight!

Oh yeah - I fully intend to redeem myself at the next MIR race!! 

[HOOKEDUP]

Rich,

Sorry for the confusion, in my post I was referring to DR not AMI.

Dave

[John Langer]

Unfortunately it looks like the best thing to do is dump pro n/a and drag radial.  Drag radial can either dump weight and run 10.5 or add weight and run in index.  Create a 9.25 index for the faster drag radial cars. 

[grosspeed2k4]

That makes sense but get ready for the yelling and screaming from the people in the classes you don't run in.

[John Langer]

That makes sense but get ready for the yelling and screaming from the people in the classes you don't run in.

All 4 of them???  This is a buisness for Rich that doesn't make any money.  When it starts costing him money for other people to race, you have to draw the line somewhere and it has to be understood.  Why should he continue to financially support something that has no support by racers???

[badbird68]

That makes sense but get ready for the yelling and screaming from the people in the classes you don't run in.

All 4 of them???  This is a buisness for Rich that doesn't make any money.  When it starts costing him money for other people to race, you have to draw the line somewhere and it has to be understood.  Why should he continue to financially support something that has no support by racers???

10.5 really had a great showing at MIR? how many 5 cars??  neal's car was broke so he will be back next race..so theres 5.

[John Langer]

If Rich decided to dump 10.5 I would just thank him for the oppertunity to tune Larry's a$$ over the past few years.   

[jay schonberger]

If the date had not changed on M.I.R. i would have been there.So i would say thats 7 cars almost double radial.

[Torkked]

Unfortunately it looks like the best thing to do is dump pro n/a and drag radial.  Drag radial can either dump weight and run 10.5 or add weight and run in index.  Create a 9.25 index for the faster drag radial cars. 

9.25 run what ya brung dot radial??  I'm in!!

[Sodano]

I think based on the state of the economy,maybe an index class would be a great idea, All I know is that the E-TOWN 8.50 INDEX IS VERY POPULAR AND VERY EXCITING! Now I know we have AMI, however if we grouped some fast cars together,like 9.25 and faster you might have something there, just an opinion, I know the heads up guys are very proud and work harder then anyone, but  I  think its hard to expect people to build these high dollar N/A cars in todays difficult times, my car is Roush small block going 9.50 and its unreal on what the cost is, so can't imagine what radial and 10.5 guys are spending, Just throwing it out there only because it was mentioned early.......................................

[bad_bu]

based on what is going on with the economy and car count, i dont think 1 change is going to make or break anything.  it might free up 1 or 2 cars at different tracks by locals, but hopefully im wrong! 

MAYBE open up a POWER ADDER index class???  honestly, with all of the hot rods out there, ALOT of them rely on some sort of fabricated horsepower other than naturally aspirated.  i understand there is alot of money responsible for payouts when new classes are created.  so maybe structure it like this...im specifically thinking index classes.  i wouldnt begin to try and think i could brainstorm a fix for the heads up classes....way to many variables.

AMI super street = 14.00 to 11.50 (this will open up factery purchased unmodified cars, as well as limited NHRA rules)
AMI pro street = 11.00 to 8.50 (opens the class up to more cars, and maintains a tighter grouping for faster cars)
Power Adder Class = 8.50 to ? (opens the opportunity for ALOT off cars. superchargers, turbos nitrous as well as sponsorship opportunities for the series)

i suggest restrict individual class payouts $250 (or whatever) to winners, but in the end there will be 3 class winners to set up a run off for the larger payout.  im not sure how to run eliminations in a fair way for 3 class winners...but im sure there are ideas, something along the lines of qualifying might come into play...highest qualifier remaining in class to get the buy??  the winner of the run off gets the opportunity to earn atleast runner up money, but the looser goes home with his class win money only.  end point accumulation at end of individual class finals.

this could very well be a pipe dream.  but thinking about accomodating everyone.  power adder guys, faster guys who dont want to run SLOW cars, 8.50 index cars are everywhere (n/a and power adder), slow cars that want to race but cant currently due to rules.

[freezy74]

MAYBE open up a POWER ADDER index class??? 

This ought to get interesting...

[freezy74]